We love scouting the internet for companies that are doing things differently, and then bringing their stories straight to you.

For our next live podcast, we're joined by Martin Pengelly-Phillips, VP of Engineering at Zen Educate, a startup tackling the global challenge of education staffing to improve outcomes for children everywhere.

At Zen Educate, they don't just hire product engineers: they hire problem shapers (not ticket takers).

Martin started his career building bespoke software for the film industry, where he learned full-stack depth, breadth, and product thinking in small, scrappy teams and once colour graded parts of Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix despite being colour-blind.

He went on to scale himself at Intercom, growing from leading one team to an org of 50 people responsible for $120M ARR, and later delivered mission-critical healthtech software at Birdie.

These days he works from home in rural Ireland with his wife, two boys, and their neurotic dog — living proof that distributed working really can work.

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